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    Forum » The Third Temple » Theology of the Third Temple » Two witnesses died in 2005
    Two witnesses died in 2005
    Andrew Date: Thursday, 13.12.2018, 11:56 | Post # 1
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    The first thing I want to say: the two witnesses in Revelation 11 are not two people.

    These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. (Revelation 11:4)

    two candlesticks — so may be called churches.

    There are exact pointers in the Bible, certain expressions that are repeated in different books, allowing us to link these passages of Scripture and identify them as descriptions of the same. For the "two witnesses", there are several parallel passages of Scripture. that explain to us what is hidden behind the image of these "two witnesses".

    1.

    And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. (Revelation 11:4)

    Compare with

    So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. (Ezekiel 37:10)

    The prophecy of Ezekiel says that these "two witnesses" are the whole house of Israel:

    Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel <...> (Ezekiel 37:10)

    From the entire 37th chapter of the book of Ezekiel, it becomes clear to us that "the whole house of Israel" is Judah, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and also  Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows.

    Judah, and his tribes of Israel his fellows
     — this is said of the Jews. Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows — this is said of Christians. Christians is Ephraim.

    2.

    These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. (Revelation 11:4)

    Compare with

    And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
    Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
    Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
    For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee.
    Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his]goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
    And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
    For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be
    the natural [branches,] be graffed into their own olive tree?

    (Romans 11:17-24)

    As we can see, what was said in the 11th chapter of the Epistle to the Romans repeats the same version, which is set forth in the 37th chapter of the book of the Prophet Ezekiel: "two olives", they are also "two witnesses" — these are all Jews and all the Gentiles, faithful to Jesus Christ, and this is all Israel.

    Now that we have understood the essence of the "two witnesses", that these are two Churches, the Old Testament Church of the Jews, who initially expected the Messiah, and then became followers of Jesus Christ, and the Church of the Gentiles, which appeared later, we can understand what the prophecy of "two witnesses" consisted of.

    Since these "two witnesses" did not act simultaneously, the term of their prophecy should be doubled: the first witness prophesied for 1260 days, the second witness prophesied for 1260 days, for a total of 2,520 "days". This is not about literal days, the number of days is the number of years, similarly as in the prophecy of Ezekiel 4:6.

    The First Temple, like the Tabernacle, was the Temple of all the tribes of Israel. The tribes of the Northern Kingdom, led by Ephraim, disappeared after. Therefore, the Second Temple, built by Zerubbabel, was the Temple of only Judah and the tribes of Israel allied with him.

    The moment of the consecration of the Second Temple is the beginning of the prophecy of the first witness.

    This happened in the month of Adar 516 BC. Approximately, this corresponds to March.

    Accordingly, the term of 2520 years expired in March 2005. What happened in March 2005?

    Let's talk about earthquakes.

    Earthquakes have always been considered a sign from God. It is known that earthquakes are of different strengths. Super powerful earthquakes rarely occur. Let's go to Wikipedia to find out how often and when superstrong earthquakes occurred. We will be interested in earthquakes with a force of at least 8.5 on the Richter scale.

    It turns out that in the past century there were only 10 such strong earthquakes. Since the beginning of this century, there have already been 6 such strong earthquakes. Pay attention to the 2 such earthquakes that occurred in this century.

    December 26, 2004 — Indian Ocean, Sumatra, Indonesia — magnitude 9.1-9.3

    March 28, 2005 — Sumatra, Indonesia — magnitude 8,6


    It turns out that these two extremely powerful earthquakes coincided with the two main holidays of the Christian religion, with Christmas 2004 and Easter 2005.

    The accuracy of the coincidence is ± 1 day.

    The question is, what is the probability that this coincidence was random?

    As we know, there are 365 days in a year, if we are interested in coincidence with an accuracy of ± 1 day, then this is approximately 120 three-day segments during the year. As we see from the table of earthquakes, heavy duty earthquakes happen about 10 times per century. That is, 10 times per century, randomly, an earthquake occurs, and we are talking about coincidence with the holiday, if the earthquake coincided with one of the 120 segmet year.

    It is easy to understand that for a coincidental coincidence with Christmas with an accuracy of ± 1 day, 120 extra powerful earthquakes should occur. If the probability of coinciding with one holiday each year is 1/10 x 3/365, that is, approximately 1/1216, then in case of coincidence with two holidays (without taking into account that this should happen within 1 year), the probability of this event will be 1/1216 x 1/1216 = 1/1478656.

    This means that we would have to wait about 1.478.656 years (!) for such an amazing coincidence of earthquakes with holidays.

    And so, this fantastic coincidence happened in 2005. Someone from the Christian religion paid attention to it? No one!

    There are no living witnesses, no prophecy in the dead Christian religion.

    This was the sign of the death of the second witness, the end of his prophecy.

    By the way, at the same time there was another sign: the dying Pope John Paul II lost his voice and for the first time unable to serve at Easter mass in 2005.

    And exactly three and a half years later, on September 29, 2008, in Rosh Hashanah, the Dow Jones index fell by 777 points, which was a historical record of its fall. So came the 70th Jubilee of Israel.


    see Calculation of the sequence of Jubilees of Israel

    see Voices of Seven Thunders

    So, I affirm that the "two witnesses" are already dead, the Christian religion is an empty place.

    For the resurrection of the "two witnesses" the Temple is needed, we must build the Third Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. The time has come, the Lord God is waiting for us to do this.
     
     
    Andrew Date: Thursday, 13.12.2018, 12:03 | Post # 2
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    I am not good at math, so if you are familiar with Probability theory, you can more accurately estimate the probability of two earthquakes accidentally coinciding with the two main holidays of the Christian religion.  
     
    Andrew Date: Friday, 14.12.2018, 02:06 | Post # 3
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    I want to add that there is no exact boundary between the end of the prophecy of the first witness and the beginning of the prophecy of the second witness. The first church was Jewish. Church of the Gentiles gradually become the main, and then the only one.

    All the boundaries established in the prophecies of the Bible, are quite conditional, schematic. For the beginning and end of the count of a period, significant events that have the rank of a world scale event are taken.

    Therefore, we simply add together the periods of prophecy of the first and second witnesses. 1260 + 1260 = 2520
     
     
    Andrew Date: Saturday, 15.12.2018, 04:03 | Post # 4
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    And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
    And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

    (Revelation 11: 7,8)

    About the beast coming out of the sea, I will have to tell you later separately. As for the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt:


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    In Revelation, another spiritual "city" is mentioned, akin to Babylon, mother of harlots. This city is called "Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified".And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (Revelation 11:8)

    This is also said about the Christian religion, but in another aspect. If "Babylon", the Babylonian captivity, is a ministry to the idols of this world, then "Egypt" is a slave ministry to the traditional religious idols of Christianity. For example, the idol of Christmas, which has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, who, as we know from the Bible, was born in the fall.

    What is Babylon, the mother of harlots and abominations?

    The pride of Christians who arrogantly pride themselves on being exceptional, as if they were children of God, while the current Christian religion has nothing to do with original Christianity, it is a spiritual Sodom.
     
     
    Andrew Date: Saturday, 05.01.2019, 21:22 | Post # 5
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    Our interpretation of the 1260 days of the prophecy of the Two Witnesses miraculously coincided with the interpretation of the prophecy of how Ezekiel lay for 390 and another 40 days.

    390 and 40 days of Ezekiel
     
     
    Andrew Date: Wednesday, 20.02.2019, 01:11 | Post # 6
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    Israel, which was before the resurrection of Jesus Christ, is the "community of the Lord".

    After the resurrection of Jesus Christ in the role of the "community of the Lord" was the Church.

    The moment of the construction of the second Temple is distinguished by the fact that the Second Temple was not the temple of all the tribes of Israel, but only part of the tribes headed by the tribe of Judah.

    The preaching of the Gospel was sent to the nations in order to return the lost tribes of Israel.

    Therefore, the result of the work of the "two witnesses" will be the restoration of the tribes of Israel, which will be realized after the construction of the Third Temple, which will be the temple of all Israel, and not only those Jews who are represented in Judaism and in the current state of Israel.
     
     
    Andrew Date: Sunday, 05.01.2020, 13:38 | Post # 7
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    Regarding the death of the two witnesses in 2005, there is one more coincidence, but not so exact and not so convincing: in 2005 Purim was celebrated on March 21-22, a week before Easter and the second earthquake.

    The Jewish holiday of Purim is connected with the 11th chapter of the Revelation, with the moment of the death of two witnesses:

    And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. (Revelation 11:10)

    Therefore the Jews of the villages, that dwelt in the unwalled towns, made the fourteenth day of the month Adar [a day of] gladness and feasting, and a good day, and of sending portions one to another. (Esther 9:19)

    As the days wherein the Jews rested from their  enemies, and the month which was turned unto them from sorrow to joy, and from mourning into a good day: that they should make them days of feasting and joy, and of sending portions one to another, and gifts to the poor. (Esther 9:22)

    This custom of sending gifts to each other in Purim is still popular today.

    The general meaning of the two witnesses is the denunciation of religious Jews and religious Christians, as long as their accusers were inside their midst, then we could talk about the prophets in religion. The time has come when there are no accusers, because they are dead, or religion has become indifferent to them, such people live in God, but do not attend religious meetings and do not consider themselves religious.

    Generally speaking, this is a victory for the Jews, because Christianity, which sought to drive Christians into its pagan denominations, looked very much like Aman and his team, because such Christianity wanted to deprive the Jews of their national identity, that is, to destroy the Jews as a nation.

    Of course, 2005 is a symbol, a milestone. We use these significant coincidences to explain the essence of the history of religion, comparing specific events with the prophecy about 1260 days. Moreover, we must not forget that 1260 days of two witnesses is not the same as 1260 days of a woman from Revelation. These are different periods, and they should be interpreted differently.
     
     
    Andrew Date: Sunday, 05.01.2020, 16:37 | Post # 8
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    Generally speaking, if it were so that the Catholics would celebrate their Easter on the full moon, as it is supposed according to the Bible, then in 2005 Catholic Easter would coincide with the Jewish Purim. But if the Lord God did not shake the earth on March 28, but on 21, the gap between the earthquake and the date of Easter on March 27, 2005 would be too large for us to declare such a coincidence of Christmas and Easter with the strongest earthquakes as such an incredible event.  
     
    Andrew Date: Friday, 07.08.2020, 22:53 | Post # 9
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    Complete scheme:

     
     
    Andrew Date: Sunday, 09.05.2021, 06:05 | Post # 10
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    Today's Christians believe in some EXTERNAL prophet-leaders who will lead them. They cannot believe that they do not need external teachers if they are Christians, that is, people anointed with the Holy Spirit. Yes, if they are looking for leaders, then they will surely find suitable false prophets for themselves who will seduce them.  
     
    Andrew Date: Sunday, 09.05.2021, 19:02 | Post # 11
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    Two witnesses are Judaism and Christianity, Judaism and Christianity, Judaism and Christianity. They both died, both died, both died. How many times do you have to repeat this for fools?!

    I read it at the Russian evangelical forum: again, the idiots are waiting for two witnesses at the Shechem gate in Jerusalem. Oh, how long will this unbreakable darkness extend! They will receive many "two witnesses", many false Christs and many false prophets from among their midst, because they are mired in their deceptions.
     
     
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